maynard_waterless
Registered: 04/02/10
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| | 04/02/10 at 02:56 AM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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FREEDOM WATERLESS CAR WASH -
Plus: The BEST for clean and shine! Sweet fragrance! User-Friendly! Best value. Leaves no streaks. Minimal polishing to shine. Lasts longest. VOC compliant.
Minus: There are none!
NO WET WATERLESS CAR WASH -
Plus: Very Good Clean! High grade Caranuba Wax, Kaolin Clay, Organic, lasts up to a week, Extremely High Gloss, Promotes color restoration, Pump Spray bottle. Labeled VOC Compliant.
Minus: Needs a nice aroma, very minor scratch, spider web or fill-in.
WORLD KLASS WATERLESS WASH & WAX -
Plus: Good Clean! High Grade Caranuba Wax, Lasts about 2 weeks, Extremely High Gloss, Promotes color restoration, Fills in minor scratches, spider webs hood cracking.
Minus: Packaging (Aerosol Can), needs a nice aroma.
DRI WASH 'N GUARD WATERLESS CAR WASH -
Plus: Cleans well! Lasts about a week, Acceptable shine, Pump Spray bottle, scratch & swirl fill-in.
Minus: No Wax, Needs nice aroma.
Congratulations Freedom Waterless Car Wash! You have proven to be the best waterless car wash for best clean, shine and longevity!
The issue comes down to the chemicals and/or materials used in manufacturing and whether they are harmful or toxic. Of course, we must always read labels, containers and packaging when considering purchasing most anything we buy today so please use your head and investigate. If you are still unsure, visit the product's website for any information. This concludes my challenge of Waterless Car Washes.
As always keep it clean and shiny and always drive safely.
OVERALL RATING:
#1 Freedom Waterless Car Wash
#2 No-Wet Waterless Car Wash
#3 World Klass Waterless Car Wash & Wax
#4 Dri Wash 'N Guard |
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Relaited
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| | 04/02/10 at 07:10 AM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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Maynard,
yes, I guess I would expect a distributor to rate their product #1, woudl be kind of funny if you didn't.
You did not call out that some of the references are a petro checmical, as an example ... are you ok with that? You only encouraged aroma imporvement.
Please remember ... this is where the pros hang out, not the DIY folks.
I recommend you rethink your post, and come back with relevant info for a pro.
btw ... how to you aply these products to a vehicle?
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maynard_waterless
Registered: 04/02/10
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| | 04/02/10 at 04:39 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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Thank you for your reply.
Applying these products to a vehicle is easy.
You will need 2 or 3 micro fiber towels and a bottle of our waterless car wash product.
1. Spray the product onto a clean folded micro fiber towel...
2.Gently rub Freedom Waterless Car Wash onto the surface with that first towel.
3. After initially spraying on and gently rubbing in Freedom Waterless Car Wash, you will see a light haze appear. Quickly, before it dries, switch to a another clean micro-fiber towel and buff off the haze into a brilliant shine.
You may refer to this link:
http://www.freedomwaterlesscarwash.com/how-to-use-it.html
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kadcrash
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| | 04/03/10 at 07:47 AM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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Maynard:
You have not rated WATERLESS WASH 'n SHINE in your ratings? It is more of a lotion than a "watery" liquid as most are and bonds to the find providing far more lubrication between the towel, dirt and paint.
As well we have developed a spray gun application that atomizes the product for completely even application and better use of the chemical.
Allows you to apply lightly on the less dirty areas and more heavily on the dirtier areas.
Would you like a sample to test?
Regards
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Relaited
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| | 04/03/10 at 09:07 AM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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Maynard,
What you have described is a method for DIY use, not the professional.
The spray bottle invites objections by the customer on "hey, aren't you scratching my car!"
Gently rub ... oh no, not on my car ... I have tried to get the good folks from Freedom to alter their washing method, specifically on their videos. So far, they have not. I think it perpetuates the myth that this model does not work, at least in the professional realm.
I believe that any professional, and that is what you find here, will read these comments and view the videos, and easily expose these common issues that a professional tries to avoid.
I suggest you take Keith up on his offer, I think you can learn something about the application of these types of products, and the method / process to remove.
Although, as a Freedom distributor, it is unlikely for you to crown a winner as anything but your own, I think you can and should learn something.
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Relaited
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| | 04/03/10 at 03:37 PM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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Which ones of those are body shop shafe? |
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Eco_Luxury
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| | 04/05/10 at 10:43 AM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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Relaited, I completely understand the issue with the spray bottle. I used it for awhile, then went away from it, but have recently come back to it. I've tried the Nomand low pressure washer for awhile and it worked great. Unfortunately the hose gets in the way sometimes, and eventually broke due to cold temperatures. I'm not about to spend another $500 on one. I've been searching for something similar, but cannot find anything in CANADA. As you may or may not know, shipping is really, really expensive and most of the detailing equipment cannot be found over here Detail King sells a system called DK 1500. It looks great but if I have an issue, there aren’t any service techs over here to service it. I would have to send it back or order parts which means lost money because the downed equipment. I really want to give it a try but again, the service aspect of it is what scares me I personally use the Freedom line of products but that was only after going through and testing many products of the same type. It took me almost a year of testing before I settled on one product.
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Relaited
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| | 04/05/10 at 11:02 AM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Eco,
It is not rocket science ... build one yourself ...
What do you figure your cost of goods per car is?
I was just on Craigslist, and found a distributor claiming $3-4 per car. http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bfs/1636647688.html
I think you need to ship in concentrate, and then dilute. The ones I am seeing, for professional application, is much much less. And, depending on different dilution ratios ... it can be utilized for many other applications.
I think Freedom is a very good choice for the DIY segment. I do not see a role for professionals
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Eco_Luxury
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Salnes
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| | 07/30/10 at 06:49 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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Being this thread is about comparison of products I would like some info on one not mentioned here. I am looking to use either Freedom waterless or Aquanil X. Has anyone used the aquanil X and can share how this is with us? I have pretty good references about freedom but none from aquanil X.
thanks
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Relaited
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| | 07/31/10 at 04:56 AM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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Salnes,
Can you share more about your model, and how the product will be used?
Who is your customer? Where are you? How will you apply it? (Please do not tell me you are a pro and will use a spray bottle?)
Where will you perform services? Inside or outside? Shade or sun? You or with workers?
You want to use it for your weekend cars, DIY? You want to become a distributor?
What towels will you use? Costco, or a higher quality?
Are you looking for Ready to Use or Concentrate.
For me, I think choices are all relevant. And, if you want the best feedback, then you need to be as specific as you can be.
I think both are good choices. Why not buy both? Into it for less than $50 easy. Then you decide based on experience and come back and let us know.
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LarryA
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Salnes
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| | 07/31/10 at 08:31 AM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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| We are a 3 man operation, we do paint correction and detailing. We alzo sell/distribute product. We are looking for something we can use where we cant use water to wash. I need something that is good and will allow us to do our maintanance washes as well. We will be using it vía a pressurized sprayer or double pump sprayer. |
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Relaited
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| | 08/02/10 at 09:19 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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When you bring in the option of distributing, that is a whole different consideration. Now you are partnering, in my opinion.
Much different than what choice to use for DIFM, although I like the DIY market.
Both your choices I would say are reputable. Having talked to both, I think they are still focused on the DIY opportunity, and not as much on the professional use, my opinion, as I think each segment is very different.
I bet it comes down to with whom to you best align with, what is the best relationship, where do you feel most comfortable, and that is different for everyone.
Call other distributors ... what has their experience been like, sales pitch match the operational deliverables?
Again, 2 good choices, I think it comes down to a personal choice.
What do others think?
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